The main thing missing from these is TLER, but depending on what you want out of these disks, you might never use, it's just nice to have. It is not cumulative. So just put in a head assembly with only 10 heads instead of 12, or configure the bad platter out in software. IIRC, they were $210 a week. [+]InstanceNoodle comment score below threshold-20 points-19 points-18 points 1 year ago (9 children). They should be identical. [â]holytoledo760 37 points38 points39 points 1 year ago* (3 children). share. This would be baked into the firmware on the drive's PCB. Thank you for posting! [â]N19h7m4r311 TB + Cloud 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (3 children). [â]courtarro24TB ZFS raidz3 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children), [â][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children), NTFS ext4 or any other filesystem on top of a gpt formatted drive will work. In other words: How to Read Model Numbers: WUH721414ALE6L4 â 14TB SATA 6Gb/s 512e Base (SE) with Legacy Pin 3 config: ** 512e models can be converted to 4Kn format and vice versa, y = Power Disable Pin 3 status(0 = Power Disable Pin 3 support, L = Legacy Pin 3 config â No Power Disable Support), 1 = SED* : Self-Encryption Drive TCG-Enterprise and Sanitize Crypto Scramble / Erase, 4 = Base (SE)* : No Encryption, Sanitize Overwrite only, 5 = SED-FIPS: SED w/ certification (SAS only), reference: (page 17) https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/product-manual-ultrastar-dc-hc530-sata-oem-spec.pdf. Okay, this is all interesting speculation! I'd love to get a dump of that EEPROM. Feel free to dismiss all of this as speculation on my part: First, Hosts issue commands that alter the drive's behavior via the SATA bus. Thanks. No not likely if the heads were depopped. Fourth, as I alluded to in my previous post, it would seem simpler to manufacture all drives on the production line with identical internal components, so that the process of manufacturing a drive on the production line allows it to be used in any one of many deployments, rather than restricting an entire production run to a particular use. List of all WD firmware and software available for download. I have always used 5400rpm drives in RAID1 and the speeds are enough even for multiple virtual machines. [â]tubameister 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). They don't have easy store in Canada so this information is false sadly. [â]1leggeddog1tb 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]firefox57endofaddons 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). You might have to break them. Or is it a random HDD model with the WD white label slapped on it? Go big or go home. [â]Npc6754 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children), [â]SweetBearCub 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). use parted/fdisk you can specify sectors for start and end of partition. [â]AllMyName1.44MB x 4 RAID10 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). The SATA bus exists as a command and control interface for controlling the drive's behavior. Performance will be unspectacular compared to an external SSD, but this thing is all about space.View Deal. Solid memory-based drives have cell failure as well. I don't want to mess with Raid or set up another machine/NAS, but I also want to have some redundancy because I don't wanna risk 14TB of data. With the 8TB disks there were scripts that could enable TLER after each reboot. Most likely one head wasnt performing up to par and they waterfall the drive vs scrapping. The Western Digital easystore 14TB external drive is the most storage that you can buy at $190. Also there's the possibility of heat issues for the enclosure itself so definitely use it shucked with a proper setup, don't try to mod it back into USB as a faster drive, [â]Lazerlord10 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). Key question: this drives motor and chassis is the same? That's a $50 difference over what the hard drive was going for yesterday, and it matches a low price on this ⦠The western digital easy store 14 terabyte external hard drive with USB 3.0 support is a nice hard drive for just about anything you wish to store. And now the 14tb is only 200. So maybe those would be labeled 1214 to represent the 2tb of unusable sectors? [â]myself248 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). Then they don't have to put money aside for warranty support. best. That one looks tough, but hopefully it's not glued. It refers to components that are "depopulated", either removed or not installed in the first place. WD Easystore. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 28238 on r2-app-0233fe2f34eb77d97 at 2021-01-11 02:44:59.214713+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. You might not want those extra 4TB if they're full of bad sectors... or maybe you would, I actually have some 2TB drives with bad sectors partitioned out to get over 1.5TB of usable space. [â]holytoledo760 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Look at the code numbers on the drive. If you want the same drive to run at 7200 RPM and have a 5-year warranty, then you have to buy it in the Data Center packaging for $500 or more. But we also know that the drive manufacturers have their own non-standard/proprietary commands that can be used to control the drive over the SATA bus. [â][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). [â]Twistedsc78 tee bees 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child). You will receive a verification email shortly. Not everybody is from $country, [â]ImpeccableLlama 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]SweetBearCub 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Best Buy has the WD Easystore 14TB desktop hard drive on sale for $249.99. 97% Upvoted. [â]barackstar60TB / DS2419+ 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (7 children), [â]InstanceNoodle -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago* (6 children). I am copying 4 HDDs to one new larger one. [â]InstanceNoodle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. save. If you have a Best Buy where you are you can get them, otherwise you're out of luck. Shit sherlock. Suppose you put 6 platters in the drive but only 5 of them pass test, you disable the sixth. At $199, it's an epic deal for this large, external USB 3.0 drive. Wasn't someone saying the 12tbs were really 14tbs at some point? F is likely being repurposed for 5400RPM 512MB cache. It's baked into the firmware as a parameter in how the spindle motor is driven. [â]perko12 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (1 child). There are some questions I have that make me start to question the recent quality of WD ⦠You can also use it to manage your drive settings, like reformatting and LED control. BA1 1UA. For the record, you can also add two years of Best Buy's Geek Squad replacement cover for $19.99. Thanks. Get instant access to breaking news, in-depth reviews and helpful tips. Deep down inside everything will be the same, except for some minor firmware programming changes that alter the drive's behavior to suit that application. ;-), [â]BradleyDS2 63 points64 points65 points 1 year ago (4 children). In this age of 4K video, there's almost no limit to how much storage you can use, but 14TB will keep most of us going for a while. You are an idiot. Plus i am looking for the exact model of the external drive. The vast majority of people don't even know what shucking is, let alone actually do it. I'm no hard drive expert, but as I understand it, data density is a function of several things including the flying-gap, and flying-gap is set by the shape of the head, the fill gas inside the enclosure, and the platter RPM. [â]ThatDistantStar 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children). Rendered by PID 28238 on r2-app-0233fe2f34eb77d97 at 2021-01-11 02:44:59.214713+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. Technical details on the WD Easystore 14TB are a little thin on the manufacturer's website. It's possible that the same mechanism may work at 5400 or 7200, but the flying-gap would increase, and the formatting would probably be different. 183 comments. I would've thought that businesses buy far more HDDs than consumers do. The '51 handles bus enumeration and overhead, among other things. I have shucked 4 10TB ones already. That is a really good price. This thing could last forever if it was... You think they retooled or had drop in replacement components made? Someone can fuck with your warranty registration and leave you out to dry if you need support from WD, [â]SweetBearCub 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (9 children). Because I have three 8Tb, a 10Tb, and two 14Tb to shuck and plug in and I need to figure out which ones need the electrical tape pin coverup. Shingled magnetic recording (SMR) is a magnetic storage data recording technology used in hard disk drives (HDDs) to increase storage density and overall per-drive storage capacity. One of these is Western Digitalâs (WD) new 14TB Easystore, an external USB 3.0 with more than enough space for your modern needs. All rights reserved. The stars (or, heads and tracks) didn't quite align, maybe the bearings in this one aren't as perfect as they need to be, or one of the heads is infinitesimally tweaked off its ideal orientation, one of the platters isn't perfectly flat, whatever. Please refresh the page and try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_File_System, [â]reallynotnick 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child). I'd be a bit worried if this drive went through that many bad sectors in test process. EMFZ, according to this WD CHART makes it a 10000 RPM drive, which of course it isn't. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: We are digital librarians. Are the internal drives inside of them all going to be the same model? From the comments, it's only for WD, but not for Seagate. Do you still have to do the pin trick with these? [â]msg7086 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]pc-despair 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (2 children). [â]HudsonGTV 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (3 children). [ PM | Exclude me | Exclude from subreddit | FAQ / Information | Source ] [â]PrimaryContract 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]SupaZT60TB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child), [â]Buzstringer 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). r/DataHoarder isn't 'look at my connection speed', No memes or 'look at this old storage medium'. Iâll chalk it up in the catastrophic and sudden failure category, like the carbon tubes upon impact. [â]useful[S] 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (11 children), [â]echo465 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (10 children), [â]Mizerka160TB UnRaid 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (6 children). Or wouldnât pass QC at 7200 so they put a white label on it and put it in an enclosure rather than toss it? If the mac is showing most of the space available it means that its supported, [â]MEDDERX34TB 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (2 children), Of course this happens after I get the 12TB ones, [â]normanbi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). If there are custom commands, I bet that's where they're stored. Some of us remember the Deathstar fiasco under IBM. Restacking the stack would cost extra labor, run additional risk of damaging things, and the platter you'd recover would be scrap anyway, so why bother? © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. With a crazy amount of storage for a relatively small amount of money, the WD Easystore 14TB comes NTFS-formatted and ready to go. So I can just shuck and plug in to my tower? But what info am I looking for? It would be interesting to know whether shucking it and connecting it directly to an SATA interface has any effect on the spin rate. I haven't gotten a good look at the controller ICs on the EasyStore bridge board (haven't shucked any myself), but it's a fair bet that, like pretty much every other USB device, there's an 8051 core in there supervising a DMA engine to shovel the actual data around. Can anyone confirm? [â]Choreboy 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children). [+]tubameister comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (14 children), [â]voidsrus 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (7 children), the external drives usually run about $50 cheaper than the same drives by themselves, [â]tubameister 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (6 children), [â]bobj33125TB 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (0 children). And as a result, it was unreliable with the higher flying-gap of a 7200rpm spin rate. That's $110 off it's normal price, making it one of the best tech deals in storage right now. USB 3.0 interface Offers an easy-to-use connection to devices. I didn't mention all of these ideas previously, but these are the things I was thinking about when I made that comment about my dream where the drive reverts back to it's native state when it is divorced from the dongle. Hello, does anyone know if these 14tb WD whites make a clicking noise or parking noise constantly? That is exactly what u/JaspahX is talking about. yeah, I have a cheap screw driver from home depot that does like 16 different screw heads. You can take off the screws by hand or with pliers, too. Or, tack on an EEPROM and you can do things like add a custom VID/PID/device ID string. [+]Terakahn comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (2 children). Best Buy is a US firm trading in the USA, Canada, and Mexico. WD 14TB external hard drive: was $310, now $200 @ Best Buy An external drive could be moved during operation a lot faster than one built in to a pc. Having them as cold storage secondary backups beats just throwing them away. [â]cleverestx 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children). What kind of issues? This isn't exactly a smoking gun, but it's a whiff of powder. I only make this point to indicate that a new superset of bus commands is on it's way to us; the bus remains the same but the command set is changing. Can you post the "DCM" code on the bottom of the box? Maybe they just participate in the standard practice of enabling/disabling features when the same underlying product is targeted at different market segments. It has not worked out well in non-sequential write applications. Sorry you got down voted for asking a legitimate question. I know all about the dumb screws haha. I directly plugged two of them into my synology without any changes beyond removing it from the enclosure, [â]relayrider 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]ElectronicWiz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). This external hard drive regularly sells for up to $310, meaning you're saving $120 ⦠Pick up any old Supermicro multi-drive server. It's the loss of permanent magnetism due to the material reaching a certain temperature. However, it's possible that the opposite has occurred: Maybe this mechanism is designed to be a 14TB drive at 7200rpm, but for some reason, it didn't quite make the mark. All of the specifics will be put into a comparison ⦠WD Easystore 14TB External USB 3.0 Hard Drive . Product segmentation, the bare drives sell to businesses mostly (where buying a higher capacity more expensive drive may save money vs buying more rack space and equipment) and the external drives sell in a very price conscious consumer market to customers who largely don't care if they buy 3x4 TB or 1x12 TB. What's interesting about this is that it looks like a 7200-RPM data center drive that's been slowed down to 5400-RPM for stuffing into the Best Buy packaging. [â]myself248 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (12 children). I see, thanks, but unfortunately I'm in Europe. [â]Megalan24TB (48 RAW) 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (5 children). Right on the money. It's an electronic depop of the head. [â]ipaqmaster72Tib ZFS 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). [â]IsimplywalkinMordor 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [+]InstanceNoodle comment score below threshold-24 points-23 points-22 points 1 year ago (11 children), [â]Choreboy 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (10 children). [â]Spinmoon50TB 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children). and join one of thousands of communities. This seems really big for a single drive no? Backward compatible with USB 2.0 for simple ⦠Bestbuy WD Easystore 14TB shucked (i.redd.it), [â]placebo-syndrome 470 points471 points472 points 1 year ago* (47 children). I'm guessing that the controller board is actually more complicated than your garden-variety USB-SATA dongle and that it serves some more advanced purpose, such as control of the drive's internal firmware. It would make sense to manufacture all drives to be the same internally, and to use an external control interface to change their feature set at the time of packaging. or you're paying for the statistical analysis / MTBF predictions based on careful testing. People have theories that the drives sold as external drives didn't pass as many quality checks so they are put in a case and sold cheaper and with a shorter warranty. [â]MEDDERX34TB 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Probably, bit its more the fact they are on sale for $200 and the 12tb were on sale for $180 (i think), [â]vfclists 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (21 children), [â]server_nerd 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (15 children). FWIW, all of my 8/10TB shucks have firmware versions that match the 5400 RPM Red drives. ;-), [â]nosurprisespls 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). You can use the Windowsâ Supported Software given below for the drive. Arenât the 16TB ones coming out soon too, or have they already? I wonder. Or, as is the case with a whole lot of hardware, some of the lower-spec parts could be those which couldn't test to the higher spec, and some may simply be down-binned to meet demand. I'll bet $5 the firmware version matches the 5400 RPM Red just like it did on the He 8 and 10 TB shucks. That's not what this post is about. Maybe I am dyslexic? [â]Phreakiture20 TB Linux MD RAID 5 95 points96 points97 points 1 year ago (2 children). [â]sonicrings4 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Keep your data integrity in mind. Can someone help me get MSNBC footage of the Capitol riots at around 11:00 AM the day of the riots? I just did this with 10TB and got lucky, looks like it could be a RED Drive. [â]morpheus2n262.5TB -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (4 children), I still to this day can't work out how from a business perspective external drives sell for cheaper sometimes by as much as £150, when they know that 9 out of 10 they sell just get shucked lol, [â]merc08 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). [â]DontRememberOldPass72TB 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children). Thank you for elaborating. Thanks for the post. But the install version, while they will sell, they don't sell in the volume that external drives sell at. have u been able to test how load it is on random access? Second, (I'm going off into the weeds now) the industry is actively engaged in bringing a new command superset to SATA/SAS in order to market Host-Managed SMR over the SATA/SAS interfaces. Conventional hard disk drives record data by writing non-overlapping magnetic tracks parallel to each other (perpendicular recording), while shingled recording writes new tracks that overlap part of the previously written magnetic track, leaving the previous track narrower and allowing for higher track density. That would also explain why it appears to be the same mechanism, and why they sell these things so cheap -- if they're basically rejects from the HC520 production line, they're a sunk-cost and wrapping them in Easystore plastic is a way to recover cost by selling them into a less-demanding market. 2 12tb for 180 each on black Friday is almost here and we 're trying really hard to. Info using the internal model Number '' for government safety certification trick with?! Magnetic wear and do n't think anybody has figured that out mentioned there 10tb WD Red pro features got voted... A parameter in how the spindle motor is driven stories, and using it as a bad sign points9 points! 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